"That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God." 1 Corinthians 2:5
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Do you know how you can tell something is crooked? By putting something straight next to it!
“Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.” 1 John 4:1
Try: To examine; to make experiment on; to prove by experiment; to prove by test; to act upon as a test; to search carefully; to try ones opinions by the Divine oracles; put to the test, as for its quality; test the limits of; to prove.
On this page we will take and examine what something claims and then put it along side the word of God and see what comes out of it so we will know what TRUTH is concerning the matter. Nothing particular, just things in these last days (1 Peter 3:1) and this present evil world. Amen! (Galatians 1:4)
“For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.” Hebrews 4:12
***People claim to have died and seen God, Jesus, devils, and angels and to have spoken to them. Then say they were resurrected and living with us today. Is this true? Really, Really?***
Below are some tabs that have some testimonial videos I gathered for you to see. Just tap on anyone you want and you can see what these people are claiming to have happened to them for yourself. Folks, just because someone says something happened does not make it true when it comes to God and His word and His behavior. If the story does not line up with His word, then thats all it is, a story. If someone claims to have talked face to face with God and His Son, or devils and unclean spirits, and was dead, thats pretty significant wouldn’t you say? It’s definitely worth proving and trying, don’t you think? Have a look at some of these testimonies below. See if you think any of them are believable. There are many,many more like these and some that you probably would agree that something did happen to that person. But that is not what the Christian goes by. You are to lay it beside the Scriptures and see if it is STRAIGHT. If it is then fine. But if not, you are to believe the BOOK.Note: While on the video page, when you get ready to return, just click the back arrow on the top left of the page and it will return you here if that is where you wish to be.
The reason for the title is that in its simplicity it answers the old question and claims of whether or not people (human beings) today, (or rather since Jesus’ Resurrection and Ascension) can die, leave their body, then come back into their body, their body awake, and they once again carry on as before living in this life in that body. It is understood especially in this age we are living now (2024) that there ARE encounters with things that we do not fully understand. It is not being taught here that it does not exist. But, there are MANY that are claiming to have left their bodies in various ways (died) went off to either heaven or hell, spoke to Jesus, the Devil, unclean spirits, angels, Michael and Gabriel, felt the flames of Hell, seen the splendor of Heaven, and on and on, etc. And then after the field trip were ordered or told by one of the aforementioned that they must return to their bodies they were in before, and come back (RESURRECT)with or without a message for all of the living. These things mentioned are not exaggerations. It ranges from little boys and girls to all ages of adults making these claims. Some even attempt using the Scriptures to validate their claim, and that would be the thing to do if that is what the Bible indeed declares that can happen to a person. Most do not mention the Scriptures at all. There are even gatherings in the name of religion where men claim to raise the dead. Literally! Do you believe that a man (other than Jesus Christ) can raise the dead? Do you know what the Bible say’s concerning that? Having said all of this, let’s ask one question. What does the Bible SAY concerning these matters? Let’s set aside all of the claimants and just focus on the subject matter in question. Does the Bible teach that a person (human being) since the Resurrection and Ascension of Jesus Christ, can leave their body and the body be DEAD, and then return and resurrect in that body and go on living as before? The answer is NO! There is no instance in the Scriptures that unfolds in the way these people claim, no matter who they are or how old they are or how genuine the story. People can say and believe anything they want, but that does not make is so. What the Christian is to ground his belief of Truth on, are the Scriptures! There has not been one iota of evidence to prove these claims are possible. Not one! Let’s look at a few things the Scriptures show us and then go believing. Oh, one more thing. Another question! Do you think that if YOU died, knowing what you know about the Scriptures and the Lords ways that you could come back in one of the scenario’s that others claim? Do you believe that??? Let’s look at a few things.
“For since the beginning of the world men have not heard, nor perceived by the ear, neither haththe eye seen, O God, beside thee, what he hath prepared for him that waiteth for him.” Isaiah 64:4
“But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him. But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.” 1 Corinthians 2:9
“It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.” John 6:63
• Concerning Heaven
There are truths taught in the Scriptures of the Apostle Paul and the Apostle John going to Heaven (and Paradise, same place) out of their bodies. The Bible teaches that they did speak and hear things that it is not possible for anyone else in this world to claim. 2 Corinthians 12:1-6; Revelation 4:1-2 The Bible also teaches that they did return into their bodies and continue living in them, until they eventually died. Now, a few truths. Both were caught up by God’s power. Neither claimed any different. Both were taken there to witness and hear things that God wanted recorded in his word, and they later after returning did record it, being parts of your Bible. Other than the Lord Jesus Christ these are the only two records in your Bible of anyone leaving, going to Heaven, and coming back. (Humans) The Apostle Paul said that it was not possible for him to utter the things he seen and heard, so other than just mentioning that it happened, he did not talk about it or even attempt to. He said there was no way to explain it. The Apostle John on the other hand came back and wrote in detail about the things he saw and was told who, what, where, and how to record it. In Detail! According to the Scriptures, no one gets this vile body back. Who would want to come back into this body in the shape it is in? When anyone of the people that are the Lords dies, they leave that dead body permanently, until the Lord changes it, immortalizes it and fashions it like His glorious Body. They go to be with the Lord when they leave that body until the Rapture or the Second Advent. Period! If anyone leaves that body on their way to Heaven, they stay there until Jesus comes back. Are we to believe that these claimants are equal in Gods choices and purposes as the Apostle Paul and the Apostle John? The Lord Jesus Christ and the Holy Scriptures by the Holy Ghost are how God has and is communicating everything he wants us to know in these days we live now. God does not reveal anything new to anyone except it be from His word. He and the Lord Jesus Christ said we see Him, hear Him and know His will by prayer and the word of God. He said we are to be patiently waiting on His return, not listening to people that say they have seen Him and spoken to Him personaly in Heaven and have a new message from God for us. Galatians 1:6-8; 1 Timothy 1:3-4; 4:7; 6:3-5; 2 Timothy 4:4; Titus 1:14; Titus 3:9; 2 Timothy 2:14; John 1 :18; 6:46; 1 John 4:20; Isaiah 8:20
NOBODY COMES BACK!
• Concerning Hell
It is incredible some of the claims people have made about an experience of Hell. Anyone that knows the Lord and His Person and what the Bible says about Hell, would not make up such things that some do. There is a Truth in the Scriptures of only a conversation that took place concerning someone that went to Hell that wanted to return, or for somebody else to be allowed to return. Both requests were rejected and denied. Why, the person couldn’t even get a drop of water to cool his tongue.Luke 16:22-31 Other than this one conversation of a person leaving their body and going into Hell, there are no other records or words spoken about it, or the possibility that it had taken place. None, nobody, nowhere, any time! There is record of the Lord Jesus Christ descending into Hell and returning, but He is God! Ephesians 4:9-10 It is suggested by some that the Scriptures record the possibility that Jonah might have died in the whales belly and went to Hell, and the Lord allowed him to return. Jonah 2 Other than these there is no one else. The Scriptures talk of people descending into the pit and Hell, but never say anything at all about them returning, ever! Because they don’t!Isaiah 5:14; Ezekiel 26:20; Ezekiel 31:16 When it comes to claims of going to Hell and coming back the Scripture even questions that possibility and then answers it. It declares urgent warnings for no one to die and leave their body and end up there. None of the claims that people proclaim today are possible according to the Holy Scriptures. There is not even any context to suggest that God would even consider such a thing. Once your gone, your gone friend.Proverbs 30:4; Romans 10:5-7Only Jesus Christ came out of Hell!
“And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham’s bosom: the rich man also d _ _ , and w _ b _ _ _ _ ; And i h _ _ _ he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham a _ _ _ o _ _, and Lazarus in his bosom. And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame. But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented. And beside all this, b _ _ _ _ _ _ u _ and y _ _ there is a great gulf f _ _ _ _ : so that they which would pass from hence to you c _ _ _ _ _ ; n _ _ _ _ _ _ c _ _ they pass to us, that would c _ _ _ f _ _ _ t _ _ _ _ _ . Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest s _ _ _ h _ _ to my father’s house: For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they a _ _ _ c _ _ _ i _ _ _ this place of torment. Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; l _ _ t _ _ _ h _ _ _ t _ _ _ . And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if o _ _ w _ _ _ unto them f _ _ _ t _ _ d _ _ _ , they will repent. And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, n _ _ _ _ _ _ w _ _ _ t _ _ _ b _ p _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ , though o _ _ r _ _ _ f _ _ _ t _ _ d _ _ _.”Luke 16:22-31
Are we to believe that God and Abraham would not let the man in Hell come back even when he was not asking for himself but for his family, but God changed His mind when it comes to others that claim this today and let them return? Abraham said that no one would believe anyone could return from the dead and resume living in the body they left. Has that changed? I remind you, this is SCRIPTURE!
NOBODY COMES BACK!
Two more things. The Scriptures do teach that it is possible to have contact with the immortal. But look at what it says.
“Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby s _ _ _ h _ _ _ e _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ a _ _ _ _ _ UNAWARES.” Hebrews 13:2
Look at the manner the Lord Jesus Christ put a question to some when He was here.
“Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, h _ _ c _ _ y _ e _ _ _ _ _ the damnation of hell?” Matthew 23:33
The Lord was talking to religious folk. Are we to believe that people die and go to Hell and come back to tell us about it whenJesus Christ say’s there is no escape?
“Life is real! Life is earnest! And the grave is not its goal; Dust thou art, to dust returnest, Was not spoken of the soul.” ~Henry Wadsworth Longfellow~
***A Stinking Christmas Tree!? Really, Really?***
The Lord is absolutely right in His opinion of man in all things, but particularly this one. This is a spiritual problem people. You say, “Oh Brother Thurman, it’s just a tree! EXACTLY! It is just a tree! You telling me that someone that would pay this amount of money for a stinking tree, isn’t worshipping it? Hogwash! Poppycock! Yes they are! The Lord says so! Read it! You have to bow down to it to get the gifts out don’t you? Folks, I didn’t pay that much for my first truck. Brother Thurman
“They have not known nor understood: for he hath shut their eyes, that they cannot see; and their hearts, that they cannot understand. And none considereth in his heart, neither is there knowledge nor understanding to say, I have burned part of it in the fire; yea, also I have baked bread upon the coals thereof; I have roasted flesh, and eaten it: and shall I make the residue thereof an abomination? shall I fall down to the stock of a tree?” Isaiah 44:18-19